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I’m Joanna Lindenbaum, a coach, ritualist, and all-around transformation nerd who is obsessed with helping clients go deep to create more change and results with their clients.
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I created the Coaching Revolution Podcast to share with you coaching skills, tips, and advice, as well as a deeper understanding of human behavior and of yourself.
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so that you can do even better client work and group work, grow your business organically, and know that you’re making a real difference in the world.
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This is about creating a revolution in the transformational industry so that more practitioners feel amazing about what they do, and so that more of our clients experience life-changing shifts.
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Let’s get started.
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So if you’re like many coaches that I know, you’ve participated in at least one training and most likely you’ve participated in more than one training that teaches you coaching or transformational skills and techniques so that you can better serve your clients.
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In fact, if you’re a really spectacular practitioner,
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or if you’re smart, caring, and committed to really helping your clients with their goals and to being the best practitioner you can be, chances are pretty good that over the years you’ve invested your time, energy, and money in quite a number of trainings.
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Whether you’ve just taken one training or you’ve taken many trainings, I know a question that can come up a lot when you’re considering taking
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another training is, do I really need another training?
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Haven’t I trained enough?
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I don’t want to hide behind taking another training.
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So…
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I know this well because we hear this a lot from people considering sacred depths or advanced depths.
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And I think it’s a really, really important question.
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And if you have ever asked yourself, do I really need another training?
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I think that it’s actually a really good sign that you’re asking it.
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It means that you’re not blindly following shiny objects.
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It means that you care about discernment and you want to be responsible with your resources.
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I know I identify with that a lot.
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So I wanted to tackle the topic on this week’s episode because, of course,
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Everyone is going to have their own aligned answer to this question of do I really need another training, depending on where they’re at in their evolution, depending on timing.
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Though sometimes what’s aligned for you, sometimes the aligned answer to that question isn’t going to be so clear at first.
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And this question of do I really need another training, it speaks to more than just
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should I invest in the next training that I’m interested in?
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It also speaks to who you are as a practitioner.
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It speaks to where you’re at in the cyclical journey of being a transformational leader.
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It speaks to what you might or might not need in order to grow your business.
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It speaks to your specific desires and needs.
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And some of those desires and needs might end up being pretty surprising.
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The question also speaks to your possible fears and avoidance patterns and so, much more.
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There are pros and cons to taking more trainings.
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And there’s so much you can learn about yourself and who you are by looking at this question of do I really need another one?
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And by getting a better grip on the question, it can help you make really good decisions when it comes to your business, your marketing, your client work, and even your satisfaction in life.
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So.
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As always, even with topics and questions that at first seem surface level, on this podcast, we’re diving deep.
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So let’s back it up and actually start here.
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Before you can even begin to answer the question of, do I really need another training?
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I think you first have to ask another question, a question that comes before it.
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And you have to ask it to yourself very honestly.
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And the question is, what is inspiring you to consider taking another training?
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So as an aside, asking a question like this, what’s inspiring you to consider taking another training, it relates to an important coaching concept.
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When you’re helping a client make a decision about whether or not to do something, often it can be really helpful to ask a motivation question, right?
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To ask a question that uncovers
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A motivation.
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So for example, to answer the question of should I or shouldn’t I quit my job, ask a motivation question.
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Why do you want to quit your job?
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To answer the question of should I or shouldn’t I start a new meditation practice, ask a motivation question.
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What’s motivating you to start a meditation practice?
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et cetera, et cetera.
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Uncovering motivation can help a client see if that motivation is aligned and legitimate, or if it’s not aligned.
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Once you have the answer to that question, then you can answer the do I really or should I pretty easily.
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Sometimes we reach for opportunities, whether that opportunity is a training or a job or a new relationship.
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Sometimes we reach for opportunities as a form of escape from discomfort.
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And then other times we reach for opportunities as a form of expansion into growth.
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And we want to really get clear on any decision.
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Is this a way of me escaping from discomfort or is this a way of me expanding into growth?
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So a great little mini framework for when you’re making any decision is to ask these three questions.
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Am I motivated by fear or avoidance?
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Am I motivated by genuine desire and expansion?
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And does this choice align with the bigger vision that I have for my life and my work?
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And all of this applies to our original question.
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If you are trying to figure out
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if you should take another training.
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So again, we want to find out the motivation.
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We want to find out the reason.
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We want to ask ourselves what’s inspiring us to consider taking another training.
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Now, sometimes, as I mentioned earlier, the reason
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for considering taking another training isn’t an aligned reason.
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It’s one of those reasons that is motivated by fear or avoidance.
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And I want you to be really honest with yourself about this.
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If you are looking to take another training so that you don’t have to put yourself out there, so that you don’t right now have to share about your work, so that you don’t right now have to create visibility, so that you don’t right now have to market and be seen and be out there selling,
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If you are looking to take another training so that you can essentially put off activating your courage, putting your big girl panties on and following your dreams, then I think the answer to the question is pretty simple.
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Definitely don’t take another training.
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It’ll keep you in the same holding pattern that you’ve been in, which is essentially
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to be holding yourself back, to be not putting yourself out there.
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If you’re looking to a next training as an excuse to put off being visible, I can pretty much pinky promise you that even by the end of the training, you won’t be ready to be visible.
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you’ll just look for the next good excuse to not be visible and to not do that outreach.
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Along the same lines, and this is really important, and I wish that more leaders would speak to this, I want to lovingly tell you, please don’t ever take
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another training because you can’t shake your fear of being a fraud or your feeling that you’re not good enough.
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With the hopes that finally, finally, if I take this next training, then I’m going to be good enough.
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One thing I always say to people who are considering stepping into the Sacred Depths Transformational Practitioner training is the following.
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You aren’t buying Sacred Depths from a perspective that something is wrong with you, or there’s something about you that needs solving, or that you’re not enough because you are enough.
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You have always been enough.
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Most people who come into sacred depths are already masterful in their own right.
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You are buying sacred depths from a perspective that you are already enough.
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And that you’re really from that enough place, desiring to go deeper for yourself,
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for your clients, for your business.
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You’re buying sacred depths from the perspective of we are always on the journey of becoming greater, and there’s got to be hiccups in the road, and we need the tools to grow and navigate whatever is coming our way.
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So I know that there are a lot of marketing tactics out there, especially oftentimes for trainings that will have you feel not enough, not good enough.
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And please, know that is not the case.
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You step into a training not because you’re not good enough, but
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because you desire to be better and to have more for yourself.
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And along those lines, I’ll also add, please, don’t ever make a decision about anything from a place of something is wrong with you that needs solving or from a place of not good enough.
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That goes for the decision to get married.
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That goes for the decision to change careers.
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That goes for the decision to buy an expensive pair of jeans, right?
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Whatever it is, on and on and on.
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Now, all that being said, if you have been holding back in your business, there might be real legitimate reasons
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to participate in a training again, depending on what the training covers and also the kind of experience that the training provides.
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So here’s what I often share as some examples on this when it comes to sacred depths.
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If you’ve been holding yourself back from being visible because you haven’t co-created the results that you would really like to create with clients,
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If your clients haven’t reached as many of the goals that the two of you have set together, or if your groups aren’t moving forward in the ways that you would like, or if your one-on-one clients or your group students don’t feel totally satisfied in their work with you, then the truth is, as we said before,
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You are enough.
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You have always been enough.
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And also, you may need to level up your transformational skills.
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And probably,
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You need to level up your transformational skills in very particular way.
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You probably need some more advanced skills when it comes to breakthrough questioning, or when it comes to visioning and strategizing, or when it comes to knowing how to help clients navigate through fear.
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And so if that’s the case, it is worth considering stepping into another training.
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For example, Sacred Depths teaches you everything that you need to know so that your clients are wowed by the transformation that they experience with you.
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So if you knowing in your heart that your clients are having an exceptional experience with you is what’s going to allow you to have the courage to make yourself more visible and to do more marketing,
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then yes, another training might be exactly the right next step for you.
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I’ll give you another example.
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If you’ve been holding yourself back from, let’s say, raising your rates or asking for referrals or renewals, and maybe you’ve been holding yourself back from all of this,
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because you feel a little sheepish, because your clients get stuck or repeat the same old patterns, and you don’t feel like you can then raise your rates or ask for referrals or renewals, then it might be very worthwhile to consider going deeper in training.
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A training like Sacred Depths provides dozens of techniques to help you help your clients
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out of their blocks and their self-sabotage patterns.
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If you’ve been holding yourself back from doing outreach and sharing your work because of your own fears and family coding around being big in the world or seen in the world, or because of your fears that have you
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feel like your nervous system just can’t handle being out in the world in big ways, doing outreach.
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Then stepping into a training like Sacred Depths, where you get to do your own very deep inner work to unwind those fears and unwind those family codes.
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and you get to do it and be held in a supportive community that encourages you, that might be absolutely the reason to take another training.
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And I’ll share that is one of the reasons
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why I continue to take trainings, one of the many reasons, right?
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So that I can continue to unwind my own stuff.
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So the idea is that when you’re in a training for the right reasons, and when it’s the kind of training that really meets your needs around both becoming better at co-creating results with clients
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and helping you work through your own inner blocks, then it’s a good choice.
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It’s not taking your time and money away from marketing and being more visible.
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Instead, it’s motivating you to be more visible.
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It’s helping you take action in real time so that you can create what you want inside of your work and your business.
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And if the training also happens to have personalized business and marketing instruction like Sacred Depths does, then by taking the training, you’re really putting yourself in a position to succeed.
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So a piece of this is also about how are you going to show up
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and experience the training that you’re considering taking.
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Because that’s really important and that makes a difference.
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For the most part, if you know you’re just going to show up for the training as a way of information consumption, then the training probably isn’t going to be that helpful.
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Because let’s be honest, we are all consuming information all the time.
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And now with AI and ChatGPT, we can get information anywhere.
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But if the training program is designed like Sacred Depths is to be an experience for you,
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tend to be an experience where you engage deeply with the content and the curriculum, where you make it your own, where there are opportunities for practicing the skills, where there are opportunities for asking lots of questions, and for you to be able to get coached.
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If it’s an experience where you are going to own breakthroughs and transformations,
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And if you’re willing to show up and invest yourself into that whole experience, then so much magic can happen and it can be really worthwhile to take another training.
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And here’s the other really important thing to consider when you’re wondering if you really need another training.
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Are you like I am?
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a lifelong learner.
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I really do believe that mastery comes from commitment, from commitment to training and commitment to practice.
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Not to mention our clients feel so much safer with us when they know that we’re committed to growth, to learning more.
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Just like you wouldn’t want a surgeon who stopped learning 10 years ago, our clients want to feel like we’re bringing fresh perspectives and new skills and deeper wisdom to our work together.
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I also know for myself that till the day that I die,
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I won’t stop being curious and wanting to know more and learn more and get better and better.
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It’s just how I am built.
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I always want to get better because it feels like part of my journey in life to keep on getting better and better.
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And because it, to me, it feels so satisfying and joyful to continue getting better and better.
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It’s who I am.
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And I wear that part of myself proudly.
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I’m A lifelong learner and I’m A transformation nerd.
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And I know I will always invest in my skills and in my own learning and in my own transformation and in my own inner work.
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And if as I’m saying this, you recognize that this is you too,
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I want you to know that there is nothing wrong with feeding that beautiful part of yourself.
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Like I said before, and please, take this in, you are enough.
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You have always been enough.
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And you’re also always on the journey of becoming greater.
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So I know that some people,
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spend their money on expensive cars and some people spend their money on jewelry, et cetera, et cetera.
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I spend my money on going deeper inside of myself.
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I spend my money on trainings and I feel so good about it because it deeply feeds my priorities
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my commitments and who I am.
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Okay, so as we close, I hope that one of the many things you’re taking away from this episode is instead of asking, do I really need another training, try asking what kind of practitioner
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and human do I want to become next?
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I really believe that question will guide you towards the right yes or the right no.
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I hope that you enjoyed today’s episode.
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I’d love to hear what resonated, what landed for you.
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And if you’ve been faced with this question before, how did you ultimately end up answering it?
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Did you end up taking the training?
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What were your reasons?
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As always, thank you so much for spending a little bit of your week with me.
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If this episode was valuable, please pass it along to anyone you know who would love it.
